Okay, so do you guys remember the big "Joe vs Joseph" debate? If not, no worries. I'll explain everything.
Lets look at a picture of Michael's passports
They both state his middle name as "Joe". Therefore his middle name has to be Joe. Why you ask? Well because Passports must include a persons full legal name. No exceptions. Michael may be famous but he is not above the law.
Some people have been questioning this saying "Joe is short for Joseph". So I asked some people who would answer me honestly, people who dont have Michael Jackson as there main point of view. People who dont know the situation. And I got the answers I was expecting. Lets take a look :
I posted that question onto Yahoo Answers. Lets look at the answers I got:
Short, Sweet and too the point.
I guess this smart ass knew I was a girl by my avatar.
Ding Ding! We have a winner!
There you have it.
Im not hiding any answeres from you, as you can see the question was only posted 3 hours ago. Thats every answer I got. I dont think anybody would be lying too me. Nor do I think all of them would be coincidentally wrong.
"Okay, his middle name is Joe. So what?"
Good question, and Im glad you asked! Look here:
You can clearly see his Middle name is stated as Joseph. Im pretty sure Death certificates require full legal names aswell.
What does this mean?
It could mean that the Death Certificate might not be his. It can't be, because that's not his middle name.
In katherine Jackson's book "My Family" she reffers to his middle name as "Joe"
A mother knows her sons middle name.
Also, if Michaels middle name really is Joe, then that would change everything. As alredy stated it would make his Death Certificate invalid, As well as his will:
Any insurance taken out under the name "Michael Joseph Jackson"
"why would he go by Michael Joseph Jackson, if his middle name is really Joe?"\
I dont know the answer for sure, but When I've asked people in the past the best answer I could come up with is "He doesnt want too be assosiated with Joe Jackson" His father, the beat him.
Why I think he planned this too be a clue in the hoax
If you read my last post it would make sense. If you havent, no worries I'll explain it here.
The speculation for the Elvis Presley death hoax started when Elvis's middle name was spelt differently on his Death Certificate then on his gravestone.
The speculation for Tupac's death hoax started when his name was spelt wrong on his gravestone.
Michael was a smart man. He knew it would start speculation. Just like it has in the past.
Here is a great theory that was written by Melissa (NeverlandsFairy). She sent this too me back in September when this issue first came up. It looks at the legal aspect of this issue. Its great! Read and enjoy. (If I can understand it, so can you. The names in the story arent real, they are mocks of real names. Mark John Jason =Michael Joe Jackson):
"THE CURIOUS CASE OF MR.MARK JOHN JASON & MR.MARK JOHNATTAN JASON
First of all, I want you to forgive my unflawless written style during
the development of this current theory, what prior I finish my entire
job on the tale I´ve been hardly working on, I decided to share with
you my findings and understandings concerning the discrepancies of Mr.
Mark´s Jason middle name.
I hope you can despise our language barriers, since my original native
one is portuguese, you still can follow my line of thoughts, and as
such in advance, Im humbly asking your kindness and comprehension on
this field .
ITS IMPORTANT TO REMARK THAT: NOTHING HERE IS ASSUMED AS ANIRREFUTABLE TRUTH, NEVER BEING ABLE TO BE USED AS ANY KIND OF "REAL"
PROOF, AND ALSO DOES NOT PRETENDS TO DIGS ANYFURTHER, THAN JUST MATTER
SUPPOSITION CONTENT, OR ORDINARY FIGURED INSIGHTS.
For such I will be using an alias name to expose my case.
And please, hold your mind that by analogy, the middle ones will be here swtiched for John and Johnattan, as well.
THE MODERN BASE OF LAW IS NOT SETTED ON EMOTION OR ASSUMPTIONS, BUT
STRONGLY BUILT OVER FACTS.FACTS PER SI ARE ENOUGH WITH JUST ONE WORD,
ONE LETTER MISPLACED, MAKES A CASE WIN OR BE FATALLY LOST. SOMEONE GETS
HIS/HER FREEDOM,LAMENTABLY BE SEND TO THE ELETRIC CHAIR, OR FOREVER AS
LONG HE/SHE LIVES SPENT HER/HIS TIME ON PRISION.
GOOD LAWYERS NOWADAYS DO NOT WASTE THEIR TIME IN LONG SPEECHES ANYMORE,
SO NEITHER DO I. SINCE THE ADVANCE OF TECHNOLOGY AND KNOWLEDGE, PLEAS
AND REQUESTS FOR QUESTIONS TO BE QUICKLY EXPOSED, AND QUICKLY RESOLVED.
However for us to get into the core of this particular case, is totally
important for you to pay your attention on these bellow legal
definations, what independent of country the divergences and private
costumes, their content remains the same, data venia they are based on
universal principles of law.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
NO ONE INDEPENDENT OF ITS HANK,STATUS QUO, WEALTHYNESS, AND POSITION,
CAN SURPASS OR DISMISS ITS OMNIPOTENT FORCE AND IMPORTANCE.THOSE WHO
IGNORES ITS RELAVANCE SHALL BE INVESTIGATED, SUED, AND TAKE TO COURT TO
BE JUDGED, AND AS CONSEQUENCE, BE , RELEASED OF CHARGES OR GETS THE
RESPECTIVE AND FAIR PUNISHMENT.
AND HERE IS THE FERTILE SOIL WHERE WE WILL PLANT OUR SEED OF DOUBT!
Knowing the not so long past of Mr.Mark J.Jason tragic and without
precedent experiences on Court, we are leaded to assume, he´d never
wish to taste such awful threats anymore.Horrible memories, what
undoubtfully, had brung to his life so much and unexplainable distress
and pain.
So please keep it in focus and let´s start.
Least but not last, for the entire understanding of this theory, I will
be giving a few links you shall consult during your lecture, to better
assimilate my points and observations.They are governamental official
ones, what does not open space for speculations, our doubts of their
veracity and straight rules!
INTRODUCTION
PRINCIPLES OF LAW:In law and ethics, universal law or
universal principle refers as concepts of legal legitimacyactions,
whereby those principles and rules for governing human beings conduct
which are most universal in their acceptability, their applicability,
translation, and philosophical basis, are therefore considered to be
most legitimate. They are universal and absolute.
LEGAL DEFINITION OF NAME:A unique combination of a given
and a surname, assigned to an individual, generally at birth, and used
to identify distinguish that indivodual both socially and in regards to
the assertion or defence of legal rights.
Its unique, personal, and untrasferable!
LEGAL NAME:Legal name is often the name which an
individual is called at birth or which appears on their birth
certificate (see birth name) or marriage certificate (in places that
have a statute allowing a name change to be recorded at marriage).
TRUE NAME:In civil law, a person's true name is generally considered to be the name given at
BIRTH or changed by a statutorily prescribed process (such as
petitioning a court (available in all States) or specifying a new name
on the marriage certificate (in those with such a statute)).
BIRTH NAME:The name at birth is the name a child is given
by his or her parents, according to a generally universal custom, and
legal requirement[1] to file a form of birth certificate. What happens
subsequently about this name has a substantial cultural component.
Where births are officially registered, a name entered into a birth certificate may by that fact alone become a legal name.
SHORT NAME AND NICKNAME DEFINITION:A nickname (also
spelled "nick name") is a descriptive name given in place of or in
addition to the OFFICIAL name of a person, place or thing. It can also
be the familiar or truncated form of the proper name[1], which may
sometimes be used simply for convenience (ex. "Bob", "Bobby", "Rob",
"Robbie", "Hob", and "Bert" for "Robert"), sometimes referred to as a
short name.
As a concept, it is distinct from both pseudonym and stage name, and
also from a title (for example, City of Fountains), although there may
be overlap in these concepts.
STAGE NAME OR PSEUDONYME: A stage name, also called a
showbiz name or screen name, is a pseudonym used by performers and
entertainers such as actors, comedians, and musicians.
A pseudonym, derived from the Greek word ψευδόνυμο (which itself is a
composition of the words ψευδός = false, and όνομα = name) is a
fictitious alternative to a name. In some cases, pseudonyms are adopted
because they are part of a cultural or organizational tradition, as in
the case of devotional names used by members of some religious orders
and "cadre names" used by Communist party leaders such as Trotsky and
Stalin.
Pseudonyms are also used to hide an individual's real identity, as with
writers' pen names, graffiti artists, resistance fighters or
terrorists' noms de guerre and computer hackers' handles. Actors,
musicians, and other performers sometimes use stage names, for example
to mask their ethnic backgrounds. Stage names are also used to create a
name which better matches their stage persona, as in the case of hip
hop artists such as Ol' Dirty Bastard (who was known under at least six
aliases); Black metal performers such as Nocturno Culto; and hardcore
punk singers such as "Rat" of Discharge. Another example of a pseudonym
is the name Lemony Snicket, an author who wanted to hide his identity.
A collective name or collective pseudonym is one shared by two or more
persons. This is sometimes used by the co-authors of a work, such as
Ellery Queen.
The term is derived from the Greek ψευδώνυμον (pseudṓnymon), literally
"false name", from ψεῦδος (pseûdos), "lie, falsehood" and ὄνομα
(ónoma), "name". A pseudonym is distinct from an allonym, which is the
name of another actual person, assumed by someone in authorship of a
work of art; such as when ghostwriting a book or play, or in parody, or
when using a "front" name such as by screenwriters blacklisted in
Hollywood in the 1950s and 1960s.
NAMESAKE:Namesake commonly refers to a person named for the sake of someone.(KEEP THIS IN MIND)
FIRST INSIGHTS ABOUT MR.JOHNATTAN ROLE ON MR.JOHN´S LIFE
Now that you learned the basics difference between the terms, we can proceed on our investigation.
So I will start asking you something, what might sound stupid at this
moment, but at the end you will perceive, the importance of this
question?
CAN 1 BODY BE AT 2 PLACES AT SAME TIME?
I assume, you might said a very strong and loudly NO...Well, lets say
that on this case our subject again defeats the law of physics.Thus not
doing his spacewalk, but being on 2 different cities,almost at same
time and same day!Possible?You will learn his trick!
HERE I NEED TO SAY MY THANKS FOR CURIOUSGIRL, TO PROVIDE RESEARCH
WITH A BREACH, I´VE BEEN DESPAIRL LOOKING FOR 2 MONTHS AND HALF!
July of 2002.
Mr.Mark John Jason goes into his personal Crusade against Dommy Madola,
this shady chapter being marked with the impresion of tension between
both subjects, and strong rivality, leading to Madola´s dismiss from
Phony Records.Also openly bloodythurstly threats for his part against
Mr.Jason.And what by weird consequences,and a reversal manipulated
destiny for dark forces , culminated in soonly allegations of criminal
and unproper behavior by Mr.Mark John Jason, one year and half later.
During this time was urgent and necessary to protect his patrimony by
LEGAL meanings, and also provide a will to support his 3 children, and
charity foundation support.
And what a better way to do it, than simply transfering his money for a
legal account, managed on a safe Namesake partner?Well donations are
not forbidden!Even if it leads you to a bankruptcy state, and level of
credits what even a 16 years old teenager does not own.
Its something originated from your own will and mind, and you might take it straight as the directly consequences.
At this instant I shall say ,to not see Mr.Johnattan as a decoy,
impersonator, double, but nothing more than other man with same name,
or at least, almost.Hence Mark Johnattan Jason.
Here lets build this picture together: a long life acquiantance that
shares his trust to even, well, once and while avoid some "annoying"
governamental fees and taxes, when Mr.John wishes to invest his large
fortune on new venues, keepin the secrecy of the anonimatum?
And with whom Mark John Jason, signing a very good salary and life
improvement to his namesake, had on the end of 80´s, borrowed/rented
his UNIQUE identity, second name as STAGE NAME, thus never deeding for
a completly change (maybe for personal meanings , or simply cause he
did not wished to deal, with another media frenzy about his
modification decision).So ending keeping his original BIRTH one, hence
TRUE NAME.Althoug starting to use artistically by oral agreement,
Mr.Johnattan middle one as pseudonyme, to who knows, better fits his
personality and stunning appearance?
While his "namesake" friend, would be a secure scapegoat to invest
money overseas, without the weight of the spotlight.After all he is a
simple middle aged guy,frail and sick, baldy and with a lung disease,
+an eaten flesh incurable illness, on a wheel chair, who happens to
have the similarirty of Mr.Mark´s Jason, worldwide famous name, but not
really his handsome stamped face.
Sounds far fetched ahm?
but it will soon, lead us to an interesting discover!
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Here a point to be resumed: A STAGE NAME/PSEUDONYME ITS NOT A CIVILIAN OR LEGAL RECOGNIZED ONE.
AS YOU ABOVE READED AT THE INTRODUCTION, IS LITERALY A FALSE NAME.
THAT, YOU JUST NEED TO SIGN IT ON A PROPER SYNDICATE OR ASSOCIATION
ENTERTEINERS GUILD,TO PROTECT IT AS YOUR PERSONAL AND ARTISTICAL TRADE
MARK,HENCE JUST AN ALLEGORY, OR A FICTION.
HOWEVER IT DOES NOT VALIDATE LEGAL DOCUMENTS, OR SERVE AS YOUR
PERSONAL AND UNIQUE IDENTIFICATION,SUCH AS :PASSPORTS, WILLS, DEATH
CERTIFICATES,COURT RECORDS, SINCE THEY NEED TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL BIRTH
CERTIFICATE OR TRUE NAME REQUESTS.
To confirm this CORE information, please I shall ask you to visit prior
we proceed on this such simple theory, these bellow sites here listed:
FIRST ABOUT PASSPORTS REGARDING UNITED STATES CITIZENS:
Provided from the Embassy of United States, and its well known strict
rules concerning visas,even for native ones, the official form bellow
it follows:
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79955.pdf
´Please be so gentle, to take a look on the head of the second page of
the official document, containing bold letters.And also the first
paragraph, entitled as 1.a ABOUT PROOF OF U.S CITIZENSHIP,and
realize within yourself, what the instructions underliened and boldly
remarked requests, remembering the strong consequences of the EXPRESS WARNING ABOVE DISAGREEMENT.
SECOND ABOUT DEATH CERTIFICATES
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/Documents/4-2008%20Application-Birth-April.%20%28Fran%29.pdf
(Scroll till the head of the second page.And I think you within the
learning already gained till here, will be able to take your own
conclusions.ABOUT WHOM CERTAIN DEATH CERTIFICATE SHALL BELONGS TO.)
COURT DOCUMENTS/CRIMINAL CHARGES SUBJECT DEFEREAD
On the Science of Law, among and above all its divisions, there is a
maximum, what refers to the most violent, and liable instance of this
important science, and for sure Im talking about the Criminal Law field.
The only one able to deprive someone of his/her freedom, and in some countries as on United States, even his/her own life.
So it might, and will obey the pricinple of the FORMAL AND MATERIAL PERFECTION ON PROCESS,
having as its directly consequence the Right of the Due Process of Law,
fundamental right present on the Constitution Letter, most important
law in every free country in the world.
Being imediatly dismissed when noticed any opened breaches, or
doubts,blank spaces,loopholes, what would very much provide this
following grossly resumed assumption:Such as judging a confessed murder
from tripple homicide within refined torture as plus to his
delightment.Condemning him to end his life on a "lethal injection"
from Dr.Murder, officialy paied by the Estate.
But,since his name holds a little slip, a typo, or even a Full TRUE
NAME misleaded, well unfortunetaly, it ended causing many troubles for
an hypothetical farm worker and his docily Mary Sue wife, living on
their cosy cottage on the most peaceful part of the county, whom for
his total lack of luckyness, happens to have his second middle name
containing the "longer" version of our sweet murder, shortned one.
Absurd ahm?So as you might had already figured it, can not BE!
TAKE A VIEW:
Constitutional Protections for the Criminal Defendant.
Every case has a "best possible outcome," whether that is an acquittal, a dismissal, a compromise to a lesser charge.
The United States Constitution and its subsequent amendments define the
scope of governmental power and reserve certain individual rights to
the people. The first 10 amendments, also called the Bill of Rights,
contain basic, fundamental rights of individuals on which the
government may not impinge. Many of these constitutional rights provide
protection to criminal defendants in the criminal justice system. The
Fourteenth Amendment extends substantive due process rights beyond just
the federal system to criminal defendants in state courts, where the
vast majority of criminal trials occur.
The basic constitutional rights of the criminal defendant permeate
every aspect of the criminal justice process. If you have been accused
of a crime, whether federal, state or local, a seasoned criminal
defense attorney from Rasmussen Miner & Associates Attorneys At Law
in Salt Lake City, UT, can explain these rights to you and help you to
fight for them at every step of the way.
Fundamental Rights
Here are the main federal constitutional rights guaranteed to criminal
defendants in the United States to promote fair trials. Remember that
these rights have been refined and interpreted by the courts and an
attorney can advise you about their role in and application to your
particular case.
* The right to due process of law
* The right to equal protection under the law
* The right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure
* The right against self-incrimination or being forced to testify against oneself
* The right against double jeopardy or being tried more than once for the same offense
* The right to legal counsel
* The right to a speedy, public trial
* The right to an impartial jury trial
* The right to confront witnesses against you
* The right to call supporting witnesses
* The right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment
* The prohibition against ex post facto laws or laws that
retroactively criminalize certain acts or increase criminal sanctions
* The right to be free from excessive fines or excessive bail
* The right to clear notice of criminal charges
* The right to a grand jury in federal felony proceedings
Conclusion
Our criminal justice system is designed through constitutional protections to provide a criminal defendant with a fair trial.
(Here I need to ask an excuse, I have in my files the court record
regarding Mr.Mark John Jason allegations, but unfortunately, I can not
find a link where you can revisit the header page, where his TRUE NAME
is stated.Please forgive me, and I count with your colaboration to help
me finding it.The respective credits on this research will be given.)
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So now , lets imagine that Mr.Mark John Jason knowing which
consequences of his battle against Mr.Madola and indirectly Phony
Records, would end, he on july 5th called his long time, loyal namesake
Mr.Mark Johnttan Jason, and oriented him to sign a Will with his full
name,on a secret meeting with his attornays at 5:00 pm on Los Angeles ,
on july Xth of that current year.
With this measure, if anything with the patrimony under Mr.John Jason
name got affected by Phony Records questionable maneuvers, nothing
under Mr.Johnnattan would be touched.As for exemple, a certain
bilionaire bees STICKERS CATALOGUE COLECTION, he used to own.But what
well, overnight, grantedly decided to DONATE it entirely to his so
lovely friend, Mr.Johnattan Jason.As same as his stunning Xanadu type,
home/estate/kingdom:Land Of Never, without blink twice for sure.
On july Xth of 2002, Mr.Mark John Jason, was known to be busy on a
Conferece against Mr.Madola on New York City at 2:00 pm, he was flamed
and stressed about the developments of his speech.And also frightned,
under the possibility to be poisoned or murdered when he had 3 lovely
kids to grow.However, completly aware of the consequences about his
concerns and personal war.
(Again here my thanks for Curiousgirl at MJHD).
Is also know that a flight between New York till L.A, takes at least 6
hours to cross the country from coast to coast.So at this point you
finally might had understood my point about, a body being able to
occupy 2 places at same time!
Remembering that, on a Will , since its a valid document with strenght
power above someone´s estate and probates, you need to state your True
Name for it to be recognized.Never a short version, or pseudonyme.Plus
your current and official signture, what forbids any kind of "personal
pink touch" or fancyness, matching your notorized and legal documents
as well.Or it can be considered unlawful, or even indicates, its usage
purposes for a HOAX STUNT, or fraudulent intentions.
So unless, Mr.Mark John Jason had took an ultra speed and express
private jet flight from N.Y (and we know this person in analysis really
hates to fly), during that sunny sunday of 2002, to fake his OWN will,
forsaking the document using other person TRUE NAME,and even slightly
changing the way to sign, what I really can not understand the purpose.
The only other reseanable and more logic explanation (what usually ends
to be the truth) is: Mr.Mark Johnttan Jason signed it, since part of
Mr.John Jason were already under his bank accounts, and contractual
administration and managment.
Understood why 1 body can not be in 2 places at same time?Or...Maybe can be?
So now I will ask you, TO WHO belongs the Amendt Death Certificate?Who´s burial will soon take place?
I will leave it for your own conclusion!"
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